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41-416: The Adult Net were a British indie pop band formed by British-based American singer and guitarist Brix Smith in 1984, while she was a member of The Fall . The group were initially assisted by several members of The Fall, including Simon Rogers , Craig Scanlon and Karl Burns. The group issued four singles in 1985/86, Scanlon ceased playing after the debut single, and Burns left a single later. In 1988,

82-459: A Melody Maker journalist in the late 1980s and founding member of pop band Saint Etienne , acknowledges that participants at the time reacted against lazy labelling, but insists they shared an approach: "Of course the 'scene', like any scene, barely existed. Like squabbling Marxist factions, groups who had much in common built up petty rivalries. The June Brides and the Jasmine Minks were

123-504: A drummer in the famed Saint Andrew Bridgmen Drum and Bugle Corps in Bayonne. Recruited by Debbie Harry and Chris Stein when Blondie was first forming in 1974, Burke joined Blondie in early 1975. He was a key figure in keeping the group together after Stein and Harry considered disbanding, following the departure of original bassist Fred Smith to Television ; Burke recruited his friend Gary Valentine to play bass. Burke's style of playing

164-702: A member of L.A.M.F., a Johnny Thunders tribute also featuring Walter Lure , Mike Ness , and Glen Matlock . The reunion shows in New York took place at the Bowery Electric in Manhattan on November 15 and 16 2016 (without Glen Matlock), and were recorded for the release on an album released on Jungle Records in December 2017. In 2019 Burke played with Blondie tribute act Bootleg Blondie. In December 2021, Burke filled in on drums for Gina Schock during The Go-Go's show at

205-620: A mirror-image of it, a pop world where they were the stars... and a little bit of a raspberry blown at the larger musical world, which (sensibly) went right on preferring something more interesting than average white kids playing simple pop songs. Despite their relatively minor commercial success (their third album was sardonically titled They Could Have Been Bigger than the Beatles ), the Television Personalities are highly regarded by critics and have been widely influential, especially on

246-498: A trio of Brix, Kipling and Aiechmann. (For the first few years of the band's existence, Brix Smith was billed simply as "Brix", although in the writing credits she used the name "Brix E. Smith".) Two singles were released in 1986, "White Night (Stars Say Go)", a cover version of "White Night" by the English band The Lines, and "Waking Up in the Sun". "Waking Up in the Sun" was the first single by

287-625: Is a Japanese style from the 1990s that was embraced by indie pop enthusiasts, partly because many of its bands were distributed in the United States through major indie labels like Matador and Grand Royal . Out of all the Japanese groups from the scene, Pizzicato Five was the closest to achieving mainstream success in the US. Chamber pop is a subgenre of indie pop that features lush orchestrations. Heavily influenced by Brian Wilson and Burt Bacharach ,

328-583: Is not just "indie" that is "pop." Not too many people realize this, or really care either way. But you can be sure indie pop's fans know it. They have their own names for themselves ... the music they listen to ... their own canon of legendary bands ... and legendary labels ... their own pop stars ... their own zines ... websites ... mailing lists ... aesthetics ... festivals ... iconography ... fashion accessories ... and in-jokes ... in short, their own culture. —Nitsuh Abebe, Pitchfork Within indie genres, issues of authenticity are especially prominent: indie

369-636: The C86 generation. Reynolds has said that "what we now know as indie music was invented in Scotland," with reference to the emergence of Postcard Records in 1979. However, some have posited that the concept of indie music did not crystallise until the late 1980s and early 1990s. Brisbane band the Go-Betweens were an early influential indie pop band, releasing their first single " Lee Remick " in 1978. American indie pop band Beat Happening 's 1985 eponymous debut album

410-607: The Joey Ramone Birthday Bash in May 2007. He is also a member of Magic Christian (Dirty Water Records), along with Flamin' Groovies guitarist Cyril Jordan (on guitar) and Plimsouls lead guitarist Eddie Munoz (on bass), and toured several times as drummer with the Hugh Cornwell Band. Burke played 90-minute sets at 100 concerts in a year and in 2008 it was reported that he had taken part in an 8-year study that analysed

451-471: The "O. Kipling" stage name, and Brix added the last name Smith to her official billing. However, this line-up did not issue any material, and Rogers, Rourke and Joyce all left the band after only a few months together. The Adult Net were eventually signed by Phonogram Records subsidiary Fontana Records , with a somewhat revised line-up – Smith and Gannon were joined by James Eller on bass, and former Blondie drummer Clem Burke . This quartet recorded

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492-544: The 1989 album The Honey Tangle . The album was recorded at The Church Studios in London and produced by Craig Leon . Three singles were released from the album: "Take Me", which reached number 78; "Where Were You" (a cover version of the American rock band The Grass Roots ' 1966 single "Where Were You When I Needed You"), which reached number 66; and a re-recorded version of "Waking Up in the Sun", which reached number 99. Shortly after

533-532: The Go-Go's member Kathy Valentine 's solo release Light Years in 2005. Burke recorded and toured with Dramarama from Wayne, New Jersey and Los Angeles on their 1993 album Hi-Fi Sci-Fi . Burke was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2006 as a member of Blondie . In 2007, Burke joined Slinky Vagabond with David Bowie guitarist Earl Slick , Glen Matlock , and Keanan Duffty playing their debut concert at

574-648: The Ramones (under the name "Elvis Ramone") for two gigs, on August 28 in Providence, Rhode Island , and August 29 in Trenton, New Jersey at the punk club The City Gardens, after the sudden departure of Richie Ramone . On October 8, 2004, he once again played under the name "Elvis Ramone", when he joined Tommy Ramone , C. J. Ramone , and Daniel Rey in the "Ramones Beat on Cancer" concert. He has recorded and played live with Wanda Jackson and Nancy Sinatra . Burke also played on

615-562: The Smith/Rogers duo recruited former Smiths members Craig Gannon , Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce to fill in the line-up, but by the time the group recorded their only album in 1989, Rogers, Rourke and Joyce had all left. The final Adult Net line-up was a quartet of Smith, Gannon, former Blondie member Clem Burke and The The member James Eller . After the band's 1989 debut album, The Honey Tangle , failed to chart, their label Fontana Records released them from their contract in 1990, and

656-543: The angst and abrasiveness of its indie rock counterpart, the majority of indie pop borrows not only the stripped-down quality of punk, but also "the sweetness and catchiness of mainstream pop". Music critic Simon Reynolds says that indie pop defines itself against "charting pop". Abebe explains: One of those things was the idea that rock music was supposed to be cool – "cool" meaning sexy, tough, arty, fiery, or fantastical... The charts had "cool" covered – these kids, in their basements and bedrooms, were trying to hand-craft

697-452: The artwork, gluing the sleeves together, releasing them and sending them out, writing fanzines because the music press lost interest really quickly." Many of the actual C86 bands distanced themselves from the scene cultivated around them by the UK music press - in its time, C86 became a pejorative term for its associations with so-called "shambling" (a John Peel -coined description celebrating

738-518: The band The International Swingers raised the money to record their first full-length self-titled album, The International Swingers (originally under the working title Whatever Works Now ). The album was recorded at Studio 606 in LA which is owned by the Foo Fighters . It was then mixed by Peter Walsh who has worked with Simple Minds , Pulp and most recently Scott Walker . In 2017 Burke played dates as

779-465: The band formed, throughout the band's entire career. He also played drums for the Ramones for a brief time in 1987, under the name Elvis Ramone . Burke's early experiences behind the drum kit began in the late 1960s and early 1970s as one of the founding members of Bayonne, New Jersey's premier cover bands, Total Environment and Sweet Willie Jam Band. Burke also gained percussion knowledge from his stint as

820-680: The band to chart when it reached number 94 on the UK Singles Chart in September 1986. For both 1986 singles, the group were officially credited as being simply 'Brix' and 'O. Kipling'. An album was recorded for Beggars Banquet in 1987 called Spin This Web but remains unreleased. In an attempt to sign with Geffen Records , in 1988 Smith and Rogers recruited former Smiths members, Craig Gannon (guitar), Andy Rourke (bass) and Mike Joyce (drums) to The Adult Net. Around this same time, Rogers dropped

861-466: The band's music as "a flower-powery side project to the Fall". He noted that some songs took "a pointless country turn" but that The Honey Tangle was a "catchy power - folk -pop collection that sounds like a flashback to 1981 Los Angeles". While reviewing The Honey Tangle for Allmusic , Stewart Mason said that the band's early singles were "spiky marriages between guitars and electronics that owed much to

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902-476: The biggest names at Alan McGee 's Living Room Club and couldn't stand the sight of each other. Only when the Jesus and Mary Chain exploded and stole their two-headed crown did they realise they were basically soulmates". Manic Street Preachers bassist Nicky Wire remembers that it was the bands' very independence that gave the scene coherence: "People were doing everything themselves - making their own records, doing

943-536: The early psychedelic sounds of 1960s garage rock . Names that indie pop fans use for themselves are popkids and popgeeks , and for the music they listen to, p!o!p , twee , anorak and C86 . Abebe says that the Scottish group the Pastels typified the "hip end of 'anorak': Their lazy melodies, lackadaisical strum, and naive attitude transformed the idea of the rock band into something casual, intimate, and free from

984-418: The genre's spread across the country. Everett True , a writer for NME in the 1980s, believes that C86 was not the main factor behind indie pop, arguing that Sarah Records was more responsible for sticking to a particular sound, and that: "C86 didn't actually exist as a sound, or style. ... I find it weird, bordering on surreal, that people are starting to use it as a description again". Bob Stanley ,

1025-576: The group disbanded. American singer and guitarist Brix Smith joined the British post-punk band The Fall in 1983 and later married the band's founder, Mark E. Smith . While remaining with The Fall, Smith formed The Adult Net along with fellow Fall member Simon Rogers in late 1984, and they released a cover version of the American psychedelic rock band Strawberry Alarm Clock 's 1967 hit single, " Incense and Peppermints ", on Beggars Banquet in April 1985. At

1066-535: The majority of Louis Phillipe 's productions for él Records embodied the sophisticated use of orchestras and voices that typified the style, whilst the Divine Comedy were the most popular chamber pop act of the Britpop era. Clem Burke Clement Burke (born Clement Anthony Bozewski ; November 24, 1954) is an American musician who is best known as the drummer for the band Blondie from 1975, shortly after

1107-504: The majority of indie as "all about that 60s-styled guitar jangle ". The Monochrome Set's early singles were so heavily influential to indie pop band the Smiths that Johnny Marr stated without them, the Smiths would not have existed. Indie pop was an unprecedented contrast from the gritty and serious tones of previous underground rock styles, as well as being a departure from the glamour of contemporary pop music . Distinguished from

1148-703: The physical and psychological effects of drumming and the stamina required by professional drummers, conducted jointly by the University of Gloucestershire and the University of Chichester . In July 2011, Burke received an honorary doctorate from the University of Gloucestershire, as a result of the drumming project. In December 2011 he formed the band the International Swingers with Sex Pistols bass player Glen Matlock , guitarist James Stevenson of Generation X and singer Gary Twinn of Supernaut . About

1189-542: The pretense of cool". Following on from the aforementioned Postcard Records, in the UK, Bristol-based Sarah Records became the archetypal indie pop record label. They began releasing 7" singles in 1987 by bands with overt feminist and left wing principles that made "sweet pop". In the US, Beat Happening's Calvin Johnson founded K Records in Olympia, Washington , and later labels like Slumberland and Harriet encouraged

1230-452: The raincoat-clad heyday of Factory Records ". Stewart went on to describe The Honey Tangle as "glossy, jangly, sweet-natured pop music that would sound perfectly at home in the Top 40 radio play lists of some alternate universe". Indie pop Indie pop (also typeset as indie-pop or indiepop ) is a music genre and subculture that combines guitar pop with DIY ethic in opposition to

1271-538: The release of the album, Smith left The Fall, having ended her marriage with Mark E. in early 1989. The album failed to chart and the band were released by Fontana in October 1990, dissolving shortly thereafter. In his 1987 interview with Brix Smith, Richard Cook for Sounds , described The Adult Net's debut single as psychedelic revival and noted that Smith "seems captivated by the innocent spirit of an older sort of pop". The American music journalist Ira Robbins described

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1312-640: The same time he became a founding member of the Split Squad , participating in tours, appearances at SXSW festivals, and in the recording of the album, Now Hear This... , released in January 2014. In April 2013, Burke appeared on the Little Steven song "All I Needed Was You" along with Scott Kempner, Barry Goldberg, Gregg Sutton and Tom Jr Morgan on the Carla Olson album Have Harmony, Will Travel . In 2014, Burke

1353-514: The self-conscious primitive approach of some of the music) and underachievement . Twee pop is a subgenre of indie pop that originates from C86 . Characterised by its simplicity and perceived innocence, some of its defining features are boy-girl harmonies, catchy melodies, and lyrics about love. For many years, most bands were distributed by Sarah Records (in the UK) and K Records (in the US). Shibuya-kei

1394-499: The style and tone of mainstream pop music . It originated from British post-punk in the late 1970s and subsequently generated a thriving fanzine , label , and club and gig circuit. Compared to its counterpart, indie rock , the genre is more melodic, less abrasive, and relatively angst-free. In later years, the definition of indie pop has bifurcated to also mean bands from unrelated DIY scenes/movements with pop leanings. Subgenres include chamber pop and twee pop . Indie pop

1435-474: The then-novel premise that one could record and release their own music instead of having to procure a record contract from a major label. According to Emily Dolan, indie is predicated on the distorted music of the Velvet Underground , the "rebellious screaming" of early punk, and "some of rock's more quirky and eccentric figures", such as Jonathan Richman . Pitchfork ' s Nitsuh Abebe identifies

1476-453: The time, the official band line-up was credited as Brix on vocals and guitar, Ottersley Kipling (i.e., Simon Rogers) on bass, Silki Guth (a.k.a. Craig Scanlon) on guitar, and 'Mask' Aiechmann (a.k.a. Karl Burns) on drums. This meant that the official Adult Net line-up was essentially The Fall without Mark E. Smith, although Smith did appear as a guest on a few Adult Net recordings credited as 'Count Gunther Hoalingen'. Also, producer John Leckie

1517-639: Was a founding member of the Empty Hearts . The group recorded on 429 Records and his bandmates included the Romantics guitarist and vocalist Wally Palmar , the Chesterfield Kings bassist Andy Babiuk, the Cars guitarist Elliot Easton , and Small Faces and Faces pianist Ian McLagan . The band's self-titled first album was released August 5, 2014, and produced by Ed Stasium . In 2015, via PledgeMusic ,

1558-497: Was also influential in the development of the indie pop sound, particularly in North America. In the early 1990s, English indie pop influenced and branched off to a variety of styles. The US, which did not have as much of a scene in the 1980s, had many indie pop enthusiasts by the mid 1990s. Most of the modern notion of indie music stems from NME ' s 1986 compilation C86 , which collects many guitar bands who were inspired by

1599-420: Was born in a Utopian attempt to stop the inevitable cycle of bands being co-opted - and, it is assumed, corrupted - by the mainstream. —Emily I. Dolan, Popular Music Both indie and indie pop had originally referred to the same thing during the late 1970s, originally abbreviations for independent and popular . Inspired more by punk rock 's DIY ethos than its style, guitar bands were formed on

1640-459: Was credited as Swami Anand Nagara, a pseudonym he would also use for his production work with psychedelic revivalists The Dukes of Stratosphear , who released their debut single the same month as The Adult Net debuted, being April 1985. "Edie" – a tribute to Edie Sedgwick , the American actress and one of Andy Warhol 's superstars  – was released in November 1985, with the line-up down to

1681-677: Was influenced by Hal Blaine , Keith Moon , Ringo Starr , and Earl Palmer . During the 1980s and 1990s, when Blondie was disbanded, Burke played drums for the Romantics (for whom Burke was the regular drummer between 1990 and 2004), Pete Townshend , Bob Dylan , Eurythmics , Dramarama , the Fleshtones , Iggy Pop , and Joan Jett , amongst others. He went on to record with the line-up of Chequered Past in 1983 with Sex Pistols guitarist Steve Jones , former Blondie bandmate Nigel Harrison , musician Tony Sales and singer/actor Michael Des Barres . In 1987, he stood in as drummer for

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